Oxford wrote:
> Hard to say quite yet, we are still 52 hours out, so while the iPhone
> will certainly have MORE apps than any cell phones, the degree of
> complexity in the first few months will probably pale in comparison for
> around a year, then watch out. It's the whole iPod has 72% share, iPhone
> has 72% share simply because it's a better product, and fully runs on
> 802.11, not some slow "cell" network.

dude, are you actually gonna get ANTHING right?

1. Your basic $49 phone actually can run more apps than the iphone
because it can run the thousands of java games and apps on the web
That's the power of having a standard. Apple decided to cripple the
iphone by denying u macnuts the right to use these resources

2. Many other high end phones have wi-fi, my dad's Nokia N95 for one,
which also has a GPS and a 5 megapixel camera. it also runs all java
j2me apps which means it againtrumps the iphone in terms of app
capability

Plus, did you see the hilarious fact that it takes 2 MINUTES for the
iphone browser to view websites???? My Opera Mini java browser spins
the same sites out in a few SECONDS.

Again apple denies you CHOICE becauae the iphone cannot run this java
app. I'm sure quite a lot of people would not want to spend ages just
trying to get to yahoo.com! :-)

* I think I'll pass by the library and look up 'Macnuts'.

Oxford wrote:
>
> Then learn how to do it, Java isn't going to make you a single penny,

Since the mobile app business is a multi-billion dollar industry, how
exactly is this true? If you were at WCCD you'd know how disappointed
even the mac developers were whe n they heard there would be no sdk
for iphone. It's a SEVERELY crippled and expensive toy.

> it's too old school, but Apple's WebKit could make you millions, IF you
> put down your silly games and white castle hamburgers and move out of a
> blue collar state.

Uh, i'm a java server side guy. Java powers most of the largest
businesses on the planet including ebay, google. nasdaq, etc etc.
These are the guys with money and why Java is tops in popularity of
languages and in # of jobs.

> Great, and only getting about 20% of the functionality of what Safari
> for the iPhone can do.


Really? The reviewers don't think so..And opera mini will run flash
soon while safari will not.

Dude, give it up... ur obviously a non-tech guy and only a "fan" of
apple.

* geez..it's getting ready to rain here in NJ but i continue to post
on my FAST opera mini java browser.

On Wed, 27 Jun 2007 19:28:12 -0000, asjbiotek@gmail.com wrote:

>
>Oxford wrote:
>> Hard to say quite yet, we are still 52 hours out, so while the iPhone
>> will certainly have MORE apps than any cell phones, the degree of
>> complexity in the first few months will probably pale in comparison for
>> around a year, then watch out. It's the whole iPod has 72% share, iPhone
>> has 72% share simply because it's a better product, and fully runs on
>> 802.11, not some slow "cell" network.
>
>dude, are you actually gonna get ANTHING right?
>
>1. Your basic $49 phone actually can run more apps than the iphone
>because it can run the thousands of java games and apps on the web
>That's the power of having a standard. Apple decided to cripple the
>iphone by denying u macnuts the right to use these resources
>

No they dont want poorly written third part apps locking it up, the
cause of the Treo's demise.

>2. Many other high end phones have wi-fi, my dad's Nokia N95 for one,
>which also has a GPS and a 5 megapixel camera. it also runs all java
>j2me apps which means it againtrumps the iphone in terms of app
>capability

The iPhone automatically switches to WiFi, and there are myriad
directories on the web listed all the FREE locations for WiFi in
your town.

>
>Plus, did you see the hilarious fact that it takes 2 MINUTES for the
>iphone browser to view websites???? My Opera Mini java browser spins
>the same sites out in a few SECONDS.

Not with optimum EDGE or WiFi.

>
>Again apple denies you CHOICE becauae the iphone cannot run this java
>app. I'm sure quite a lot of people would not want to spend ages just
>trying to get to yahoo.com! :-)

Fine don;t play Reversi on an iPhone. I could care less.
My Motorola V600 always would lockup from one of your JAVA games.

>
>* I think I'll pass by the library and look up 'Macnuts'.

Too bad you have to reboot your PC twice a day, unlike a Mac.

Most public Librarys these days have free WiFi, as do places like
Burger King, Panera, Best Western, etc, and the WiFi often works a
block away too.

Oxford wrote:
> asjbiotek@gmail.com
> > Dude, i have several remote desktop java apps that allow me to log in
> > to my desktop and servers right now as if i'm right there. Widgets
> > won't do that.
>
> Yes, and Apple has Remote Desktop that puts your Java App to SHAME.
>
> http://www.apple.com/remotedesktop/
>

HELLOOOOO????? Is there anything in that head of yours but mcNUTS?

I tell you about java apps on my CELLPHONE that allow remote desktop
viewing ON MY CELLPHONE you give me a desktop software?????

HELLO?????

Your iphone widgets don't have this and you can't even work on
documents and spreadsheets on it! What kind of a CRIPPLED smartphone
is that? Most smartphones allow you to create and edit Microsoft word
docs, excel spreadsheets and powerpoint.

Iphone gives you - tiny widgets! ROTFLOL

On 2007-06-27 16:39:12 -0500, asjbiotek@gmail.com said:

>
> Oxford wrote:
>> asjbiotek@gmail.com
>>> Dude, i have several remote desktop java apps that allow me to log in
>>> to my desktop and servers right now as if i'm right there. Widgets
>>> won't do that.
>>
>> Yes, and Apple has Remote Desktop that puts your Java App to SHAME.
>>
>> http://www.apple.com/remotedesktop/
>
> HELLOOOOO????? Is there anything in that head of yours but mcNUTS?
>
> I tell you about java apps on my CELLPHONE that allow remote desktop
> viewing ON MY CELLPHONE you give me a desktop software?????

You're an idiot. Apple Remote Desktop uses the VNC protocol, and
everyone but you knows that you can connect to a VNC server with any
web browser.

--
JR

Jolly Roger wrote:
> On
> You're an idiot. Apple Remote Desktop uses the VNC protocol, and
> everyone but you knows that you can connect to a VNC server with any
> web browser.
>
> --
> JR

Hey butthead, since your iphone cannot run java or flash clients, how
is it going to do this? HTML? ROTFLOL.....there is one or two ajax
clients, but they be muy buggy, very slow and feature-starved and i
doubt they'd run in that slow ass safari anyways.

Bwahahahhah!

asjbiotek@gmail.com wrote:

> Since the mobile app business is a multi-billion dollar industry,

well the "app" business is not "multi-billion" so started off on the
wrong track.

> how
> exactly is this true? If you were at WCCD you'd know how disappointed
> even the mac developers were whe n they heard there would be no sdk
> for iphone. It's a SEVERELY crippled and expensive toy.

what is WCCD? if you don't even know what the largest Unix app
conference is called, how in the hell are you going to know what is
going on in mobile phone development?

> > it's too old school, but Apple's WebKit could make you millions, IF you
> > put down your silly games and white castle hamburgers and move out of a
> > blue collar state.
>
> Uh, i'm a java server side guy. Java powers most of the largest
> businesses on the planet including ebay, google. nasdaq, etc etc.
> These are the guys with money and why Java is tops in popularity of
> languages and in # of jobs.

hate to break the news, but ebay, google, nasdaq, ect... don't "run" on
java. sure, sure there are some small aspects that do, but java is a 5%
story with these companies.

> > Great, and only getting about 20% of the functionality of what Safari
> > for the iPhone can do.
>
> Really? The reviewers don't think so..And opera mini will run flash
> soon while safari will not.

but the iPhone runs for 6-8 hours, what does your cell phone running
Opera mini run for? I'd rather have the FULL internet and FULL speed for
most of the day, than have a clunky kid internet for 3 hours and then I
have to turn it off.

> Dude, give it up... ur obviously a non-tech guy and only a "fan" of
> apple.
>
> * geez..it's getting ready to rain here in NJ but i continue to post
> on my FAST opera mini java browser.

Your primitive opera browser, the big kids will all use the iPhone.

asjbiotek@gmail.com wrote:

> > http://www.apple.com/remotedesktop/
>
> HELLOOOOO????? Is there anything in that head of yours but mcNUTS?
>
> I tell you about java apps on my CELLPHONE that allow remote desktop
> viewing ON MY CELLPHONE you give me a desktop software?????
>
> HELLO?????
>
> Your iphone widgets don't have this and you can't even work on
> documents and spreadsheets on it! What kind of a CRIPPLED smartphone
> is that? Most smartphones allow you to create and edit Microsoft word
> docs, excel spreadsheets and powerpoint.
>
> Iphone gives you - tiny widgets! ROTFLOL

ah, the iPhone runs desktop level software, it's based on OSX and i
think you like to forget that. Your cell phone runs on a "non-desktop"
os, so by default, it's weak.

none wrote:
> hate to break the news, but ebay, google, nasdaq, ect... don't "run" on
> java. sure, sure there are some small aspects that do, but java is a 5%
> story with these companies.
>

hate to break it to you, but you're an idiot. Google is Java and
python mostly in the backend ( a LOT of google's top tech guys are
from Sun, you know, the inventor of Java - I even regularly go to
google's NYC office for Java lectures), the nasdaq backend is mostly
Java and transitioning to real time java, and eBay actually has a Java
LOGO on the upper right hand side that says it's "powered by Java."

Please stop embarrasing urself you mcnut....

> Your primitive opera browser, the big kids will all use the iPhone.

Uh, ok. You go on with your delusions now. A phone that can't work on
office docs and presentations, cannot run thousands of apps and games
except for tiny little widgets, has a slow ass browser...uh
sure....iphone is for "big" kids, but i'm an adult and adults need
mire than expensive CRIPPLED toys.

On 2007-06-27 17:07:25 -0500, asjbiotek@gmail.com said:

>
> Jolly Roger wrote:
>> On
>> You're an idiot. Apple Remote Desktop uses the VNC protocol, and
>> everyone but you knows that you can connect to a VNC server with any
>> web browser.
>
> Hey butthead, since your iphone cannot run java or flash clients, how
> is it going to do this? HTML? ROTFLOL.....there is one or two ajax
> clients, but they be muy buggy, very slow and feature-starved and i
> doubt they'd run in that slow ass safari anyways.

Hey idiot - it runs just fine! You don't know what you are talking
about, dork.

--
JR