In article <1182971095.009683.202190@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups .com>,
asjbiotek@gmail.com wrote:

> Like i said, complain to apple why they are preventing you guys from
> access to so many free and useful apps and games by crippling the
> iphone.
>
> * tapping on my opera mini java browser while finishing up on lunch

Opera Mini crashes my Treo. LOL
Can't wait for things that work. (Like my Mac does)

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On Jun 27, 7:10 pm, Jolly Roger <jollyro...@R.E.M.O.V.E.pobox.com>
wrote:
> On 2007-06-27 17:07:25 -0500, asjbio...@gmail.com said:
>
>
>
> > Jolly Roger wrote:
> >> On
> >> You're an idiot. Apple Remote Desktop uses the VNC protocol, and
> >> everyone but you knows that you can connect to a VNC server with any
> >> web browser.
>
> > Hey butthead, since your iphone cannot run java or flash clients, how
> > is it going to do this? HTML? ROTFLOL.....there is one or two ajax
> > clients, but they be muy buggy, very slow and feature-starved and i
> > doubt they'd run in that slow ass safari anyways.
>
> Hey idiot - it runs just fine! You don't know what you are talking
> about, dork.
>
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> JR

LOL...yeah, show us your iphone that's running a remote desktop client
on its browser....

Next time, before you jump in, make sure you know what you're talking
about ;-)

On Jun 27, 6:31 pm, none <a...@b.com> wrote:
> ah, the iPhone runs desktop level software, it's based on OSX and i
> think you like to forget that.

Mr. None Sheep:

please read first and educate yourself before spewing garbage like
this. desktop level software? WTF is that? It's not the full OS X
dude, it's a stripped version, just like...ummm...Windows Mobile?
Linux Mobile?

Btw, good find...they shoulda used opera mini...that NY times would
have been there in like 5 seconds ;-)

http://tech.msn.com/products/article...5061246&page=1

Data that crawls
When AT&T's EDGE network debuted in 2005, it seemed zippy indeed,
delivering data at up to 100 kilobits per second. But that was then.
Today, with true 3G technologies delivering data at up to several
hundred kbps, Apple's decision not to support AT&T's UMTS-HSDPA 3G
network seems short-sighted--especially given the iPhone's investment
in cool new Web browsing technology that doesn't suffer from the
compromises of a mobile browser. In our limited hands-on tests a few
months ago, downloading the New York Times' front page via EDGE took
quite a few seconds. AT&T has tacitly acknowledged this potential
problem by announcing upgrades to its EDGE network in anticipation of
the iPhone launch. And of course, the iPhone will support Wi-Fi, which
will make Web page downloads much more feasible if you're in range of
a hotspot.

Limited third-party apps
Lots of cell phone power users get more value out of the applications
they've loaded on their handsets themselves than the often lame or
expensive offerings from their carriers. When the iPhone was first
announced, third-party apps seemed shut out entirely, a move that
prompted one online petition of protest. Now Apple says that
developers can create iPhone apps that run in Safari. Only two
problems with that: First, those apps may be fairly poky given the
iPhone's slower EDGE network connection. Second, many developers seem
to hate writing for Safari. As PC World forums member dazeddan said,
"As a developer, we have more problems designing around Safari than
any other platform. I wish it would just go away."

At 27 Jun 2007 21:05:14 +0000 karlkrandall@sbcglobal.net wrote:

> No they dont want poorly written third part apps locking it up, the
> cause of the Treo's demise.

I wasn't aware that the Treo was, as they say in the Dead Parrot sketch,
"demised..."

If the OS is really good ol' full-desktop OSX as everyone wants to believe,

shouldn't it be able to handle an errant app all by itself?

Or, perhaps, is it possible that stability is simply the "cover story"
for the real reason: nobody is allowed to make money off this thing but
Apple!

In article <8uj583tar2tlsbhb7ecvqgktgun2uvlqul@4ax.com>,
karlkrandall@sbcglobal.net wrote:

> On Wed, 27 Jun 2007 19:28:12 -0000, asjbiotek@gmail.com wrote:
>
> >
> >Oxford wrote:
> >> Hard to say quite yet, we are still 52 hours out, so while the iPhone
> >> will certainly have MORE apps than any cell phones, the degree of
> >> complexity in the first few months will probably pale in comparison for
> >> around a year, then watch out. It's the whole iPod has 72% share, iPhone
> >> has 72% share simply because it's a better product, and fully runs on
> >> 802.11, not some slow "cell" network.
> >
> >dude, are you actually gonna get ANTHING right?
> >
> >1. Your basic $49 phone actually can run more apps than the iphone
> >because it can run the thousands of java games and apps on the web
> >That's the power of having a standard. Apple decided to cripple the
> >iphone by denying u macnuts the right to use these resources
> >
>
> No they dont want poorly written third part apps locking it up, the
> cause of the Treo's demise.

And this is the major problem I have with my Treo- incompatibility of
the third party apps. Stuff crashes. Opera Mini crashes.
I want things that work and work well together. I have better use for my
time than hard resets.

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On 2007-06-27 19:39:04 -0500, asjbiotek@gmail.com said:

> On Jun 27, 7:10 pm, Jolly Roger <jollyro...@R.E.M.O.V.E.pobox.com>
> wrote:
>> On 2007-06-27 17:07:25 -0500, asjbio...@gmail.com said:
>>
>>> Jolly Roger wrote:
>>>> On
>>>> You're an idiot. Apple Remote Desktop uses the VNC protocol, and
>>>> everyone but you knows that you can connect to a VNC server with any
>>>> web browser.
>>
>>> Hey butthead, since your iphone cannot run java or flash clients, how
>>> is it going to do this? HTML? ROTFLOL.....there is one or two ajax
>>> clients, but they be muy buggy, very slow and feature-starved and i
>>> doubt they'd run in that slow ass safari anyways.
>>
>> Hey idiot - it runs just fine! You don't know what you are talking
>> about, dork.
>
> LOL...yeah, show us your iphone that's running a remote desktop client
> on its browser....
>
> Next time, before you jump in, make sure you know what you're talking
> about ;-)

Nice try, dummy. But since you're the one complaining, you have the
burden of proof. Prove to the rest of us the iPhone can't do it, or
shut up. : )

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On Jun 27, 9:37 pm, Jolly Roger <jollyro...@R.E.M.O.V.E.pobox.com>
wrote:
> Nice try, dummy. But since you're the one complaining, you have the
> burden of proof. Prove to the rest of us the iPhone can't do it, or
> shut up. : )


Nice try?? LOL.....

Since remote desktops rely on thin clients to actually render remote
views (ever try doing this using html? LOL), and since the iphone does
not run either Java or Flash (THANK YOU stevie boy!), both of which
are needed (unless you use a thick client) to actually use remotes,
then it's pretty darn unlikely a bloated slow browser like safari will
be running it right?

You obviously have no idea what you're talking about other than
clicking on that marketing link and trying to sponge off it.

You sheep sure do bleat a lot....

On Jun 27, 3:02 pm, Oxford <colalovesm...@mac.com> wrote:
> yes, and Java / Google Earth works quite well on OSX, the same OS inside
> the iPhone... hum... could there be a connection???????

I missed this but this is quite hilarious...

DUDE, you DO know that the OS in the iphone is NOT the full OS X,
right?? Right??? RIGHT????

You weren't totally fooled by the Apple market droids, right?

It's like the stripped down version of Windows in Windows Mobile, or
the stripped down Linux in Linux Mobiles....

In article <1182995667.937709.317850@u2g2000hsc.googlegroups. com>,
asjbiotek@gmail.com wrote:

> On Jun 27, 3:02 pm, Oxford <colalovesm...@mac.com> wrote:
> > yes, and Java / Google Earth works quite well on OSX, the same OS inside
> > the iPhone... hum... could there be a connection???????
>
> I missed this but this is quite hilarious...
>
> DUDE, you DO know that the OS in the iphone is NOT the full OS X,
> right?? Right??? RIGHT????
>
> You weren't totally fooled by the Apple market droids, right?
>
> It's like the stripped down version of Windows in Windows Mobile, or
> the stripped down Linux in Linux Mobiles....

You don't own a mac, do you. LOL

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> Most public Librarys these days have free WiFi, as do places like
> Burger King, Panera, Best Western, etc, and the WiFi often works a
> block away too.

Ha! Just the sort of target audience than can actually afford the
overpriced/overhyped phone... NOT.