Steve de Mena <steven@stevedemena.com> wrote:

> > Those estimates were for the weekend, Not just Friday and Saturday which is
> > all
> > that would be included in Apple's Quarterly report.
>
> They also include ALL phones shipped to ATT during
> that time period, not just those actually sold to
> consumers.

but ATT sold all of their iphones, so your point doesn't matter.

I must like you morons cuz I like yanking yer chains....

PC World's Top 10 smartphones:
http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,12...s/article.html

The Blackberrys are all Java ME-based, and the Symbians and Windows
phones can run Java ME software. The lone holdout, the iPhlop at #5,
obviously lacks any meaningful software capabilities and thus is just
an over-expensive, pretty, but crippled toy.

On Jul 25, 10:03 pm, karlkrand...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
> More trolling. He only wishes he had bought Apple stock the day before
> the iPhone was announced.


Bought at $82 or $86 (i forget), sold at $130 (unfortunately). You
keep forgetting I actually like macs, although my mac laptop is now
gathering dust after i decided i don't want to be associated with you
delusional numbskulls.

Anyways, I REALLY have to leave you losers to your wet jobs
daydreams....

On Jul 25, 11:01 pm, ZnU <z...@fake.invalid> wrote:
> But if the product
> is a success, it's likely to have the same sort of exponential growth as
> the iPod. We don't have enough data yet to figure out what kind of
> growth curve to expect.
>

No it won't become as dominant as the iPod or grow as fast later,
because you morons keep forgetting that the phone industry has some
very large, established, and innovative competitors (Symbian, Windows,
Blackberry, Palm, Linux) ALREADY dominating the world market in
numbers that are frankly mind-numbing..

The iPhlop already showed that hype was not enough to meet
expectations, I think it'll continue to show slow growth unless and
until Apple manages to make a $99 phone (and get games into it, which
means putting Java into the useless little thing), and even then it'll
still be a marginal player worldwide.

Frankly, given this slow start, I think the iPhlop is more in line to
become like the mac mini or cube than the iPod. Just be glad it may
not become like the newton, or the hapless, forgotten apple tv.

As to the iPod, it's not even dominant elsewhere around the world,
especially in very fast growing and large economies like China. For
example:

http://www.pinoytechblog.com/archive...opular-in-asia

In article <1185412666.717751.189600@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups. com>,
asjbiotek@gmail.com wrote:

> On Jul 25, 9:04 pm, asjbio...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Jul 25, 7:57 pm, Oxford <colalovesm...@mac.com> wrote:
> >
> > > So the iPhone is the best selling phone of all time, hitting 1.25
> > > million in less than 2 weeks, and well on its way to hitting 10-14
> > > million by the end of 2007.
> >
> > Oh, I just HAD to get back in after hearing this blathering idiot go
> > on....
> >
> > ROTFLOL....are all the macnuts here complete idiots? Are all you
> > losers complete morons?
> >
> > Even Apple itself says it MAY hit 1 million after ONE QUARTER of sales
> > (that's 3 months)....
> >
> > Says Jobs: "we hope to sell our one-millionth iPhone by the end of its
> > first full quarter of sales"
> >
> > Notice the term "hope" and "its first full quarter of sales"....
> >
> > And how in God's earth will it sell 14 million in the next 5 months or
> > so when it sells only 1 million in the first 3 months? Helloo?????Is
> > there anything in that hairy thing on top of ur head?
> >
> > http://www.informationweek.com/news/...rticleID=20120...
> >
> > hey iPhone, meet the Lisa, and the Cube, and the mac mini, and the
> > Apple TV (another burgeoning nothing) and the newton....and throw in
> > the NeXT disaster while we're at it....
>
> Btw, just so you guys know how big this market is compared to 270k
> phones sold in 2 days, Nokia last year sold 345 MILLION phones in one
> year, which comes to almost 1 MILLION phones EVERY DAY....

Wow.

A company that sells many models of phones outsells...

....one model of phone.

--
Alan Baker
Vancouver, British Columbia
"If you raise the ceiling four feet, move the fireplace from that wall
to that wall, you'll still only get the full stereophonic effect if you
sit in the bottom of that cupboard."

In article <1185427585.950967.87940@w3g2000hsg.googlegroups.c om>,
asjbiotek@gmail.com wrote:

> On Jul 25, 10:03 pm, karlkrand...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
> > More trolling. He only wishes he had bought Apple stock the day before
> > the iPhone was announced.
>
>
> Bought at $82 or $86 (i forget), sold at $130 (unfortunately). You
> keep forgetting I actually like macs, although my mac laptop is now
> gathering dust after i decided i don't want to be associated with you
> delusional numbskulls.
>
> Anyways, I REALLY have to leave you losers to your wet jobs
> daydreams....

You decided what computer you should use based on people who post to
Usenet?

LOL

--
Alan Baker
Vancouver, British Columbia
"If you raise the ceiling four feet, move the fireplace from that wall
to that wall, you'll still only get the full stereophonic effect if you
sit in the bottom of that cupboard."

At 25 Jul 2007 22:38:56 -0600 Oxford wrote:

> just surf mac surfer 10-30 times a day and you'll see why we are so
> well informed.
>
> http://www.macsurfer.com/


I'm surprised you bother reading that site with all of their
misinformation...

I just found this posted there today [from the article "Cheap(er) third-
party iPhone battery replacements roll around"]:

"...iPodJuice also says that if you're GOOD WITH SOLDERING and feel
confident that you can replace the darn thing yourself, you can remove
the installation service when you check out and only purchase the
battery..."

Imagine them posting crap like that when you've painstakingly explained
to all of us how the entire online community is wrong, and you know the
battery isn't actually soldered in place, but held in with a "couple of
clips"...

They even link another obviously bogus article where they quote Steve
Jobs TODAY (July 25th) saying he "hopes" to sell the millionth iPhone by
the end of
September despite the fact that you've told us it already happened weeks
ago.

Obviously that website is crap. Other than your illustrative posts,
where should we go for the true Apple news?


--
Todd Allcock

"I don't need my cell phone to play video games or take pictures or
double
as a Walkie-Talkie; I just need it to work. Thanks for all the bells and
whistles,
but I could communicate better with ACTUAL bells and whistles."
-Bill Maher 9/25/2003

In article <1185399482.419138.58130@b79g2000hse.googlegroups. com>,
Edwin <thorne25@juno.com> wrote:

> On Jul 24, 11:38 pm, Derek Currie <derekcur...@mac.com.invalid> wrote:
> > In article
> > <1185292107.945696.264...@k79g2000hse.googlegroups .com>,
> >
> > asjbio...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > You guys need a reality adjustment if you think the under-powered, toy
> > > iPhone is going to "conquer" anything...whatever...
> >
> > Ooo! It's a 'toy'! Like we haven't heard that TROLL comment for
> > the last 23 years since the Mac was released. Too bad Apple's
> > 'toys' are so consistently successful. And that includes the
> > iPhone:
> >
> > One-in-three Americans want iPhone
> > Apple's iPhone could become one of the most successful product
> > launches yet
> > Jonny Evans
> > Friday, 13 July 2007
> > <http://www.macworld.co.uk/news/index.cfm?RSS&NewsID=18539>
> >
> > > Apple's iPhone could emerge as the most succesful product introduction of
> > > the
> > > 21st century, new research suggests.
> >
> > > Lightspeed Research surveyed 39,000 people on its US online panel in the
> > > days
> > > following the launch of the device on 29 June - and the research findings
> > > are
> > > staggering.
> >
> > So sorry TROLL, but you lose. (;_
> >
> > Being one of those who wants an iPhone but did not buy one yet, I
> > NEVER EVER buy version 1.0 products, and that includes anything
> > from Apple. I have a list of about 10 things I would love to see
> > added to the iPhone, including 3G access to improve Internet
> > speed via cellular connection. Apple have verified that the next
> > version of the product's software is in the works. I can wait
> > until v1.1. I suspect many techno-savvy folks feel the same way.
> >
> > And in any case, the 3rd party software regime for the iPhone has
> > barely begun. The iPhone is only going to get better and more
> > enticing with time.
> >
> > AND! Just for fun, why don't you TROLLS go check out the success
> > the Zune, the so-called 'iPod Killer', had during its first few
> > weeks of release! It had quickie sales boom that lasted about 2
> > days then sales plummeted. It took MONTHS for the Zune, which
> > costs half the price of the lowest price point iPhone, to have as
> > many sales as the iPhone did in TWO DAYS.
> >
> > So please TROLLS, go back to flagellating yourselves. (Look it
> > up). We at mac.advocacy continue to beam with happiness over the
> > continued growing success of Apple's truly (versus imitatively,
> > ala MS) innovative products.
> >
> > Share and Enjoy,
> >
> > :-Derek
>
> I'd like to share something for you to enjoy:
>
> "Based on our store checks, we believe that demand for the iPhone has
> seen a significant decline in the past 10 days," analyst Ittai Kidron
> told clients. "We have noticed decent inventories at stores, and thin
> demand at best. In fact, most Apple store visitors were not looking at
> the device and only a very small subset bought it."
>
> http://www.appleinsider.com/articles...one_demand_slo
> wing_but_3g_model_in_cards.html

Wow. After the initial flush of eager buyers, sales of a new product
slow.

Stop the presses for this one...

--
Alan Baker
Vancouver, British Columbia
"If you raise the ceiling four feet, move the fireplace from that wall
to that wall, you'll still only get the full stereophonic effect if you
sit in the bottom of that cupboard."

Oxford wrote:
> Mitch <mitch@hawaii.rr> wrote:
>
>> Oxford <colalovesmacs@mac.com> wrote:
>>
>>> SJ always guesses low then surprises. Did you even listen the the
>>> conference call? They are going into Europe next month, so there's
>>> another million right there. Apple has hit 1.25 million with just 3
>>> channels open.
>> Where do you get this figure? The excited analysts are not evidence;
>> they are barely guidelines.
>
> research.
>
>>> and then mail order, then CompUSA/BestBuy/Wal-Mart by christmas, you'll
>>> easily get to 10-14 million iPhones sold by 2007.
>> I don't understand this -- are you suggesting that all those customers
>> who would buy through those channels are deliberately avoiding buying
>> them from the other three available channels, even though they want
>> them right now?
>
> there are only 168 US retail stores (about) and 400 corporate att stores
> that were allowed to sell the iphone. (only 1 per customer) then add
> apple's online store that started at 7pm eastern time, but zero counted
> for Q3, (cuz you can't count a product unless it ships) and you get a
> very narrow channel. (ATT was not allowed to sell iphones online)
>
> contrast that to around 36,000 outlets that sell ipods, and you can do
> the math from there.
>
> apple purposely kept the iphone channel small for quality control and
> simplicity. but you can bet by november 15th, you'll see iPhones in
> 1,000's of locations, where the "masses" buy, not "destination"
> locations.

The media reported ATT was selling the iPhone at
1,800 of their stores.

Not 400.

Steve

On Jul 26, 1:48 am, Alan Baker <alangba...@telus.net> wrote:
> > Btw, just so you guys know how big this market is compared to 270k
> > phones sold in 2 days, Nokia last year sold 345 MILLION phones in one
> > year, which comes to almost 1 MILLION phones EVERY DAY....
>
> Wow.
>
> A company that sells many models of phones outsells...
>
> ...one model of phone.

It's funny how you morons focus on ONE point i made (when all i wanted
to show was how big the market is) and cannot argue any others because
you actually have no arguments that stand.

Btw, here's a 200 million units sold handset model from Nokia.
http://www.engadget.com/2007/05/07/n...illion-served/

Think the iPhlop can make it to 200 million? bwahahabwahahaha.....

Ok, much as i'd like to continue to pound your macnut heads, it's time
to gooooo..

hasta la vista, morons.