On Jul 11, 1:37 pm, Todd Allcock <eleccon...@AmericaOnLine.com> wrote:
> At 11 Jul 2007 07:44:05 -0600 none wrote:
>
> > Todd Allcock <eleccon...@AmericaOnLine.com> wrote:
> > it's a new function, you haven't been able to "flick" through your

> > > Isn't syncing one-way on iPhone? (I'm asking- I haven't used on yet.)
> > > Do contact and calendar changes upload to your computer?
>
> > yes, data goes both ways. kinda fun that hasn't been reported anywhere
> > that i've seen.... if you open iPhoto, the iPhone shows up and you can
> > pull in your camera images.
>
> I've seen photo transfer reported. I'm asking about Contacts- can you
> create a contact on the iPhone and have it show up on the computer after
> you sync?
>
> I haven't seen THAT reported, and without that, it challenges the iPhone
> fitting anyone's definition of a "smartphone"

iSync on my Mac will sync contacts both ways from my Razr V3 (i.e.
create them on both devices if necessary) so I would assume the iPhone
worked the same with iSync.

-Jason

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> On Jul 11, 1:37 pm, Todd Allcock <eleccon...@AmericaOnLine.com> wrote:
>> At 11 Jul 2007 07:44:05 -0600 none wrote:
>>
>> > Todd Allcock <eleccon...@AmericaOnLine.com> wrote:
>> > it's a new function, you haven't been able to "flick" through your
>
>> > > Isn't syncing one-way on iPhone? (I'm asking- I haven't used on
>> > > yet.)
>> > > Do contact and calendar changes upload to your computer?
>>
>> > yes, data goes both ways. kinda fun that hasn't been reported anywhere
>> > that i've seen.... if you open iPhoto, the iPhone shows up and you can
>> > pull in your camera images.
>>
>> I've seen photo transfer reported. I'm asking about Contacts- can you
>> create a contact on the iPhone and have it show up on the computer after
>> you sync?
>>
>> I haven't seen THAT reported, and without that, it challenges the iPhone
>> fitting anyone's definition of a "smartphone"
>
> iSync on my Mac will sync contacts both ways from my Razr V3 (i.e.
> create them on both devices if necessary) so I would assume the iPhone
> worked the same with iSync.
>
> -Jason
>

IPhone gives you an option of syncing either way and adding or updating
common contacts.
>

none <a@b.com> wrote:

> Kurt Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > yes, what i've noticed it's really a debate between people that have and
> > > use the iphone against those that have never touched one.
> >
> > I think it goes a little deeper in that it seems to be between those
> > that were destined to have an iPhone (Apple fan or just a need for the
> > latest UberGeek gadget) and those would go back to strings and tins cans
> > before they would ever touch anything with the Apple logo on it.
> > Of course this leaves the majority who really don't care either way,
> > mildly amused about the hooha..
>
> yes, there is some of that, i'll agree. but ALL phones will now work
> like the iPhone in 10 years, that's a fact written in today's stone.

I doubt it. Ten years is an age in this space.

Perhaps we'll finally see the flexible paper-like screen promised a
while back. Use it as a substitute for ordinary paper in a traditional
notebook format, pages with the various functions running concurrently,
all your apps available at the flick of a page - a more intuitive
interface than any icon based scheme.

Once you accept the concept the potential is limitless.

--

Immunity is better than innoculation.

Peter

George Graves <gmgraves2@comcast.net> wrote:

> While rich people have access to the best schools and the finest
> educational materials, its no guarantee that they can or will use them. Look
> at Paris Hilton. A woman so dumb that she'd have to take classes in sex and
> would still get it wrong.

I thought she'd released a sex education video a while back... :-)

--

Immunity is better than innoculation.

Peter

George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Excuse the occasional top-post. I didn't want anyone to miss this:
> http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/...n/4954824.html

It's called viral marketing.

--

Immunity is better than innoculation.

Peter

Peter Hayes <notinuse2@btinternet.com> wrote
> none <a@b.com> wrote
>> Kurt Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com> wrote

>>>> yes, what i've noticed it's really a debate between people that have
>>>> and use the iphone against those that have never touched one.

>>> I think it goes a little deeper in that it seems to be between
>>> those that were destined to have an iPhone (Apple fan or just a
>>> need for the latest UberGeek gadget) and those would go back to
>>> strings and tins cans before they would ever touch anything with
>>> the Apple logo on it. Of course this leaves the majority who
>>> really don't care either way, mildly amused about the hooha..

>> yes, there is some of that, i'll agree. but ALL phones will now work
>> like the iPhone in 10 years, that's a fact written in today's stone.

> I doubt it.

Not a chance.

> Ten years is an age in this space.

Phones havent changed that much in 10 years.

> Perhaps we'll finally see the flexible paper-like screen promised a while back.

Not for phones we wont.

> Use it as a substitute for ordinary paper in a traditional
> notebook format, pages with the various functions running
> concurrently, all your apps available at the flick of a page
> - a more intuitive interface than any icon based scheme.

All phones wont be done like that.

> Once you accept the concept the potential is limitless.

Its just got other limits, like the size of the device.

In article <5fkkpeF3ceobvU1@mid.individual.net>,
"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

> Kurt Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com> wrote
> > none <a@b.com> wrote
>
> >> yes, what i've noticed it's really a debate between people that have
> >> and use the iphone against those that have never touched one.
>
> > I think it goes a little deeper in that it seems to be between those
> > that were destined to have an iPhone (Apple fan or just a need for the
> > latest UberGeek gadget) and those would go back to strings and tins
> > cans before they would ever touch anything with the Apple logo on it.
>
> Its never that black and white.
>
> Todd clearly doesnt fit into either category, and neither do you or I.

No, I am firmly with in the majority, mildly amused about the hooha.
Which is why I included the third option.

>

"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in
news:5fkvidF3d847cU1@mid.individual.net:

>
> Phones havent changed that much in 10 years.
>

Not much, except for:

Cameras
Customizable Screens
Customizable [url=http://www.unlimitedcomplimentaryringtones.com]Ringtones[/url]
Email capability
Internet capability
Calendars
GPS
Music capability
Video capability
Bluetooth capability

to name a few.

Scott <how.do@you.do> wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>> Peter Hayes <notinuse2@btinternet.com> wrote
>>> none <a@b.com> wrote
>>>> Kurt Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com> wrote

>>>>>> yes, what i've noticed it's really a debate between people that have
>>>>>> and use the iphone against those that have never touched one.

>>>>> I think it goes a little deeper in that it seems to be between
>>>>> those that were destined to have an iPhone (Apple fan or just a
>>>>> need for the latest UberGeek gadget) and those would go back to
>>>>> strings and tins cans before they would ever touch anything with
>>>>> the Apple logo on it. Of course this leaves the majority who
>>>>> really don't care either way, mildly amused about the hooha..

>>>> yes, there is some of that, i'll agree. but ALL phones will now work
>>>> like the iPhone in 10 years, that's a fact written in today's stone.

>>> I doubt it.

>> Not a chance.

>>> Ten years is an age in this space.

Your FAR too selective quoting reversed. What was clearly
being discussed was ALL PHONES, not just high end phones.
And the fanchild was clearly talking about how they work, not
features, which the iphone has significant lacks with even now.


>> Phones havent changed that much in 10 years.

> Not much, except for:

> Cameras

That aint how they work, what was being discussed.

> Customizable Screens

Low end phones dont even have that.

> Customizable [url=http://www.unlimitedcomplimentaryringtones.com]Ringtones[/url]

Those were around 10 years ago.

> Email capability
> Internet capability
> Calendars

Those arent even available on all phones.

> GPS

Thats not available on all phones, just 911 location
capability and that was legally mandated.

> Music capability
> Video capability
> Bluetooth capability

That aint how they work, what was being discussed.
Those are features, and not all phones have those.

> to name a few.

Pity it wasnt what was being discussed.

Kurt Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com> wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>> Kurt Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com> wrote
>>> none <a@b.com> wrote

>>>> yes, what i've noticed it's really a debate between people that have
>>>> and use the iphone against those that have never touched one.

>>> I think it goes a little deeper in that it seems to be between those that
>>> were destined to have an iPhone (Apple fan or just a need for the latest
>>> UberGeek gadget) and those would go back to strings and tins cans
>>> before they would ever touch anything with the Apple logo on it.

>> Its never that black and white.

>> Todd clearly doesnt fit into either category, and neither do you or I.

> No, I am firmly with in the majority, mildly amused about the hooha.

But you clearly do care either way or you wouldnt have bothered to comment.

> Which is why I included the third option.

Pity that Todd and I dont fit into that category either.

>>> Of course this leaves the majority who really don't
>>> care either way, mildly amused about the hooha..

>> And plenty that realise that while the iphone certainly is
>> quite different in some areas like the UI, its nothing like as
>> revolutionary as the worst of the fanchildren like this one claim.