Todd Allcock <elecconnec@AmericaOnLine.com> wrote:

> At 17 Jul 2007 00:31:32 +0200 Lars Träger wrote:
>
> > There aren't any high end PDAs today with a real keyboard - not without
> > an add-on.
>
> HTC Advantage, HTC Tytn, Nokia N95...

The first one is bigger than some REAL notebooks, the others have tiny
keys.
--
Lars T.

Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

> Lars Träger <Lars.Traeger@epost.de> wrote
> > Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
> >> Lars Träger <Lars.Traeger@epost.de> wrote
> >>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
> >>>> Lars Träger <Lars.Traeger@epost.de> wrote
> >>>>> DOS lost.
>
> >>>> Different matter entirely.
>
> >>> Suuure.
>
> >> Fraid so.
>
> > Yeah, you sure are sorry that DOS lost.
>
> Nope, I have always thought that a decent GUI leaves it for dead and even
> someone as stupid as you should be able to find countless examples of me
> saying that using groups.google LONG before you ever showed up.

So your excuse i#s that you are an old geezer. Anyway "groups.google"?
Yeah, sure. I used Usenet befor Google existed, whipersnapper.

> >>>> And phones certainly arent going to all end up working like the
> >>>> iphone either. There will be plenty with physical buttons in 10
> >>>> years, you watch.
>
> >>> Sure. But how many of those will have all those
> >>> stupid features you don't actually need in a phone?
>
> >> Almost all of them, essentially because they cost peanuts to add.
>
> > So all phones will come with peanuts.
>
> Never ever could bullshit its way out of a wet paper bag.

What, the iPhone or you? The iPhone sure is the smarter one here.

> >>>> There will be some high end PDAs with real keyboards too, you watch.
>
> >>> There aren't any high end PDAs today with a real keyboard - not
> >>> without an add-on.
>
> >> I meant real in the sense of not a virtual keyboard, a physical
> >> keyboard. Plenty of those.
>
> > Yeah - with an add-on.
>
> Nope, built in right from the start.

Suuure.

> >>>> And laptops wont be doing without physical keyboards either, you watch.
>
> >>> Yeah, and you will also still make up stuff as you go along.
>
> >> Never ever could bullshit its way out of a wet paper bag.
>
> > So why do you try.
>
> Never ever could bullshit its way out of a wet paper bag.

We already know you can't.
--
Lars T.

Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

> Todd Allcock <elecconnec@AmericaOnLine.com> wrote
> > Rod Speed wrote
>
> > Do you just try to set a personal best of how
> > many >'s you can see on a screen at once?
>
> I prefer to have the context in the post.

You should try to go for content.
--
Lars T.

Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

> Lars Träger <Lars.Traeger@epost.de> wrote
> > Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
> >> Lars Träger <Lars.Traeger@epost.de> wrote
> >>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
> >>>> Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> wrote
> >>>>> Double-clicking, direct manipulation of objects, etc.
> >>>>> -- the *basic* parts of the GUI: they came from Apple.
>
> >>>> Nope, from Xerox.
>
> >>> Do you have anything to back that up
>
> >> Yep, the detail of the specific WIMPs.
>
> > IOW you don't.
>
> IOW you couldnt bullshit your way out of a wet paper bag.

No need, you are the idiot who is wrong.

> >>> - apart from the "I stole the TV first" quote from Bill Gates?
>
> >> It wasnt stolen and Apple lost their legal suit they
> >> attempted againsts Gates, and lost the appeal too.
>
> > Suuure. "That's not what a Mac does. I want Mac on the PC."
>
> Pity the courts didnt buy that line.

Sure. And OJ is innocent?

> > Yup, doesn't like Bill wanted a copy of the Mac at all.
>
> See above.

Exactly.
--
Lars T.

Lars Träger <Lars.Traeger@epost.de> wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>> Lars Träger <Lars.Traeger@epost.de> wrote
>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>> Lars Träger <Lars.Traeger@epost.de> wrote
>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>> Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> wrote

>>>>>>> Double-clicking, direct manipulation of objects, etc.
>>>>>>> -- the *basic* parts of the GUI: they came from Apple.

>>>>>> Nope, from Xerox.

>>>>> Do you have anything to back that up

>>>> Yep, the detail of the specific WIMPs.

>>> IOW you don't.

>> IOW you couldnt bullshit your way out of a wet paper bag.

> No need, you are the idiot who is wrong.

Easy to claim, hell of a lot harder to actually substantiate that claim.

>>>>> - apart from the "I stole the TV first" quote from Bill Gates?

>>>> It wasnt stolen and Apple lost their legal suit they
>>>> attempted againsts Gates, and lost the appeal too.

>>> Suuure. "That's not what a Mac does. I want Mac on the PC."

>> Pity the courts didnt buy that line.

> Sure. And OJ is innocent?

Never ever could bullshit your way out of a wet paper bag.

>>> Yup, doesn't like Bill wanted a copy of the Mac at all.

>> See above.

> Exactly.

Pathetic.

"Lars Träger" <Lars.Traeger@epost.de> wrote:
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Todd Allcock <elecconnec@AmericaOnLine.com> wrote
>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>
>>> Do you just try to set a personal best of how
>>> many >'s you can see on a screen at once?
>>
>> I prefer to have the context in the post.
>
> You should try to go for content.

You shoud do the world a service and hang yourself.

Lars Träger <Lars.Traeger@epost.de> wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>> Lars Träger <Lars.Traeger@epost.de> wrote
>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>> Lars Träger <Lars.Traeger@epost.de> wrote
>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>> Lars Träger <Lars.Traeger@epost.de> wrote
>>>>>>> DOS lost.

>>>>>> Different matter entirely.

>>>>> Suuure.

>>>> Fraid so.

>>> Yeah, you sure are sorry that DOS lost.

>> Nope, I have always thought that a decent GUI leaves it for dead and
>> even someone as stupid as you should be able to find countless examples
>> of me saying that using groups.google LONG before you ever showed up.

> So your excuse i#s that you are an old geezer.

Nope, that you made a VERY spectacular fool of yourself, as always.

> Anyway "groups.google"? Yeah, sure. I used
> Usenet befor Google existed, whipersnapper.

Irrelevant to that spectacular footshot of yours, child.

>>>>>> And phones certainly arent going to all end up
>>>>>> working like the iphone either. There will be plenty
>>>>>> with physical buttons in 10 years, you watch.

>>>>> Sure. But how many of those will have all those
>>>>> stupid features you don't actually need in a phone?

>>>> Almost all of them, essentially because they cost peanuts to add.

>>> So all phones will come with peanuts.

>> Never ever could bullshit its way out of a wet paper bag.

> What, the iPhone or you? The iPhone sure is the smarter one here.

Never ever could bullshit its way out of a wet paper bag.

>>>>>> There will be some high end PDAs with real keyboards too, you watch.

>>>>> There aren't any high end PDAs today with a real keyboard - not without an add-on.

>>>> I meant real in the sense of not a virtual keyboard, a physical keyboard. Plenty of those.

>>> Yeah - with an add-on.

>> Nope, built in right from the start.

> Suuure.

Fraid so.

>>>>>> And laptops wont be doing without physical keyboards either, you watch.

>>>>> Yeah, and you will also still make up stuff as you go along.

>>>> Never ever could bullshit its way out of a wet paper bag.

>>> So why do you try.

>> Never ever could bullshit its way out of a wet paper bag.

> We already know you can't.

Never ever could bullshit its way out of a wet paper bag.

"Lars Träger" <Lars.Traeger@epost.de> wrote:
> Todd Allcock <elecconnec@AmericaOnLine.com> wrote:
>
>> At 17 Jul 2007 00:31:32 +0200 Lars Träger wrote:
>>
>>> There aren't any high end PDAs today with a real keyboard - not
>>> without an add-on.
>>
>> HTC Advantage, HTC Tytn, Nokia N95...
>
> The first one is bigger than some REAL notebooks, the others have tiny keys.

You STILL got it completely wrong, as always.

Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

> "Lars Träger" <Lars.Traeger@epost.de> wrote:
> > Todd Allcock <elecconnec@AmericaOnLine.com> wrote:
> >
> >> At 17 Jul 2007 00:31:32 +0200 Lars Träger wrote:
> >>
> >>> There aren't any high end PDAs today with a real keyboard - not
> >>> without an add-on.
> >>
> >> HTC Advantage, HTC Tytn, Nokia N95...
> >
> > The first one is bigger than some REAL notebooks, the others have tiny keys.
>
> You STILL got it completely wrong, as always.

So you are saying that the Advantage is actually the smaller of the
devices. Yeah, you are the man.
--
Lars T.

"Lars Träger" <Lars.Traeger@epost.de> wrote:
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> "Lars Träger" <Lars.Traeger@epost.de> wrote:
>>> Todd Allcock <elecconnec@AmericaOnLine.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> At 17 Jul 2007 00:31:32 +0200 Lars Träger wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> There aren't any high end PDAs today with a real keyboard - not
>>>>> without an add-on.
>>>>
>>>> HTC Advantage, HTC Tytn, Nokia N95...
>>>
>>> The first one is bigger than some REAL notebooks, the others have
>>> tiny keys.
>>
>> You STILL got it completely wrong, as always.
>
> So you are saying that the Advantage is actually the smaller of the devices.

Nope, as you full realise.