Oxford wrote:
> George <george@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>
>>> Now the cellphone industry has been seriously disrupted and players are
>>> scurrying around like rodents trying to figure out what to do next.
>>>
>>> This a VERY GOOD thing.
>>>
>>> -
>> The iphone is an entertainment device. Lots of folks have and use a
>> smartphone for business purposes. Can you directly edit a spreadsheet or
>> document sent to your iphone? Can you use the non-existent GPS to
>> display your position and route?
>
> Can you directly edit a spreadsheet on any other phone? nope! not really.
>

Yes, really.

> The iPhone is a high powered communication device that has already
> changed the world... in 65 days! a new Apple record!
>
> You are talking about very old "apple //" concepts, "a spreadsheet" if
> it had any value would be updated through Ruby on Rails, AJAX or PHP, so
> your iPhone would display the latest info every time.
>

Thats OK, I think the "old" concepts will be around for awhile...


> A "spreadsheet" is like the postit note of the 90's.
>
> Get with the program!

So you agree that your entertainment only iphone isn't really suitable
for business use?

Oxford wrote:
> George <george@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>
>>> Now the cellphone industry has been seriously disrupted and players are
>>> scurrying around like rodents trying to figure out what to do next.
>>>
>>> This a VERY GOOD thing.
>>>
>>> -
>> The iphone is an entertainment device. Lots of folks have and use a
>> smartphone for business purposes. Can you directly edit a spreadsheet or
>> document sent to your iphone? Can you use the non-existent GPS to
>> display your position and route?
>
> Can you directly edit a spreadsheet on any other phone? nope! not really.
>
> The iPhone is a high powered communication device that has already
> changed the world... in 65 days! a new Apple record!

Changed the world? Give it a rest oxford. It's a smart phone that isn't
particularly smart, nor, by most every report, it isn't even a very good
phone.

It's got a good screen, and a great web browser. Big whoop. Otherwise my
Nokia S60 is a better smart phone.



>
> You are talking about very old "apple //" concepts, "a spreadsheet" if
> it had any value would be updated through Ruby on Rails, AJAX or PHP, so
> your iPhone would display the latest info every time.
>
> A "spreadsheet" is like the postit note of the 90's.
>
> Get with the program!

I guess that Apple just came out with Apple II technology to create
their "numbers" app, eh? <eye roll>

In article <1188922899.836476.91670@r29g2000hsg.googlegroups. com>,
Edwin <thorne25@juno.com> wrote:

> On Sep 4, 10:10 am, Oxford <colalovesm...@mac.com> wrote:
> > apple stock up 4.5 points on the news...
> >
> > -
> >
> > (Reuters) - Apple Inc's iPhone outsold all smartphones in the United
> > States in July, its first full month on sale, accounting for 1.8 percent
> > of all U.S. mobile handset sales, research group iSuppli said on Tuesday.
>
> [snip]
>
> "The market researchers used a survey of 2 million people which
> estimated that about 1.8 percent of all cellphones sold in the US
> during July were iPhones, regardless of class."
>
> http://www.macnn.com/articles/07/09/...sells.in.july/

Note "smartphone" in the subject.


--
Sandman[.net]

Steve Mackay <steve_mackay@hotmail.com> wrote:

> > Can you directly edit a spreadsheet on any other phone? nope! not really.
> >
> > The iPhone is a high powered communication device that has already
> > changed the world... in 65 days! a new Apple record!
>
> Changed the world? Give it a rest oxford. It's a smart phone that isn't
> particularly smart, nor, by most every report, it isn't even a very good
> phone.

You clearly don't use an iPhone day to day do you? I do and have a
non-biased report on the actual device.

If you don't have an iPhone, there is no way you can comment on this
subject.

> It's got a good screen, and a great web browser. Big whoop. Otherwise my
> Nokia S60 is a better smart phone.

Actually, in real world use. The iPhone is like touching all data that
is connected to the planet, it's pretty cool once you start using it.
Far better screen resolution than the Nokia, they don't even have
anything in their future labs remotely close to it. At this point, Nokia
is a gonner I'm afraid. Can you say Sperry?

> > You are talking about very old "apple //" concepts, "a spreadsheet" if
> > it had any value would be updated through Ruby on Rails, AJAX or PHP, so
> > your iPhone would display the latest info every time.
> >
> > A "spreadsheet" is like the postit note of the 90's.
> >
> > Get with the program!
>
> I guess that Apple just came out with Apple II technology to create
> their "numbers" app, eh? <eye roll>

The Apple // created the first spreadsheet, that's a fact. Hard to say
what the first killer app on the iPhone will be, but it's assured nobody
else will have access to it since they don't have access to quality cell
phone hardware.

-

Oxford wrote:
> Steve Mackay <steve_mackay@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>> Can you directly edit a spreadsheet on any other phone? nope! not really.
>>>
>>> The iPhone is a high powered communication device that has already
>>> changed the world... in 65 days! a new Apple record!
>> Changed the world? Give it a rest oxford. It's a smart phone that isn't
>> particularly smart, nor, by most every report, it isn't even a very good
>> phone.
>
> You clearly don't use an iPhone day to day do you? I do and have a
> non-biased report on the actual device.

You? non-biased? ROFLMAO! Get back to us when you take down that shrine
of Steve Jobs that you pray to every day.

>
> If you don't have an iPhone, there is no way you can comment on this
> subject.

Yeah, I can. Used it... It's useless for my needs. It'd be a cool toy,
but beyond that, what's the use? Without the ability to add
applications, it's useless.

>
>> It's got a good screen, and a great web browser. Big whoop. Otherwise my
>> Nokia S60 is a better smart phone.
>
> Actually, in real world use. The iPhone is like touching all data that
> is connected to the planet, it's pretty cool once you start using it.
> Far better screen resolution than the Nokia, they don't even have
> anything in their future labs remotely close to it. At this point, Nokia
> is a gonner I'm afraid. Can you say Sperry?

Uh huh... Nokia is a gonner... Get back to us when that happens<eye roll>

>>> You are talking about very old "apple //" concepts, "a spreadsheet" if
>>> it had any value would be updated through Ruby on Rails, AJAX or PHP, so
>>> your iPhone would display the latest info every time.
>>>
>>> A "spreadsheet" is like the postit note of the 90's.
>>>
>>> Get with the program!
>> I guess that Apple just came out with Apple II technology to create
>> their "numbers" app, eh? <eye roll>
>
> The Apple // created the first spreadsheet, that's a fact. Hard to say
> what the first killer app on the iPhone will be, but it's assured nobody
> else will have access to it since they don't have access to quality cell
> phone hardware.
>
> -

Oxford <colalovesmacs@mac.com> wrote in news:colalovesmacs-
4E2B12.12023304092007@mpls-nnrp-04.inet.qwest.net:

> Apple will KILL off RIM, MOT, Symbian, Nokia, Samsung... they just don't
> have the talent to compete against OSX inside a Phone.
>

You'd better hope not! Apple runs on MOTOROLA PROCESSORS!

Larry
--
Search youtube for "Depleted Uranium"
The ultimate dirty bomb......

At 04 Sep 2007 13:50:05 -0600 Oxford wrote:

> Can you directly edit a spreadsheet on any other phone? nope! not
> really.


Which proves YOU'VE clearly never owned a smartphone, and therefore
"there is no way you can comment on this subject."


--

"I don't need my cell phone to play video games or take pictures
or double as a Walkie-Talkie; I just need it to work. Thanks for
all the bells and whistles, but I could communicate better with
ACTUAL bells and whistles." -Bill Maher 9/25/2003

Oxford <colalovesmacs@mac.com> wrote in news:colalovesmacs-
DD9A61.09101104092007@mpls-nnrp-04.inet.qwest.net:

> apple stock up 4.5 points on the news...
>
> -
>
> (Reuters) - Apple Inc's iPhone outsold all smartphones in the United
> States in July, its first full month on sale, accounting for 1.8 percent
> of all U.S. mobile handset sales, research group iSuppli said on Tuesday.
>
> ISuppli reiterated its forecast that Apple would sell 4.5 million
> iPhones this year, rising to more than 30 million in 2011.
>
> The two models of the iPhone on the market sold more than Research in
> Motion's Blackberry series, the entire Palm portfolio and any individual
> smartphone model from Motorola, Nokia or Samsung.
>
> ISuppli classifies the iPhone as a crossover phone that competes with
> both smartphones, which have personal computer-like functions such as
> e-mail, and feature phones, which have extras such as cameras and music
> players.
>
> "While iSuppli has not collected historical information on this topic,
> it's likely that the speed of the iPhone's rise to competitive dominance
> in its segment is unprecedented in the history of the mobile-handset
> market," iSuppli said.
>
> "Apple achieved this in the face of numerous, well-entrenched
> competitors."
>
> Most buyers of iPhones in the United States in July were male, under 35
> and had a college degree, iSuppli said.
>
> A quarter of those who bought an iPhone switched to operator AT&T, which
> has an exclusive service agreement for the iPhone in the United States.
>
> The iPhone will go on sale in Europe later this year.

Wow- less than 2% of the market, despite spending a large fortune on viral
advertising during the time period. For Apple, that kind of market share
would be huge.

In the mean time, not a single AT&T commercial features the iPhone and a
random survey of AT&T retailers shows that it falls well down the list of
recommended devices when not asked for specifically.

BTW- for Apple to sell 4.5 million phones with a 1.8% market share (as the
article implies), every cellular user in the US would have to replace their
phone between now and the year. Not likely.

Oxford <colalovesmacs@mac.com> wrote in
news:colalovesmacs-4E2B12.12023304092007@mpls-nnrp-04.inet.qwest.net:

> Larry <noone@home.com> wrote:
>
>> > rising to more than 30 million in 2011.
>>
>> Apple thinks iPhone sales will last 4 more years? I predict it may
>> last 6 months to a year...but someone will trump it LONG before 4
>> years is up and the Yuppie class will move on! They've NEVER had a
>> phone that lasted a year since dropping the Startacs and standard
>> battery packs!
>>
>> Larry
>
> No Larry, you have no idea of how all of this works.
>
> Apple has 200+ patents on the iPhone, so no matter WHAT... Apple will
> have the lead for 17 years or so... Apple is the outsider with far
> better engineering talent than any Cell Phone company has, so Apple
> completely eliminated the "cell upgrade" cycle with a SINGLE product.
>
> Ouch!
>
> Now anyone that gets an iPhone will have years and years of service
> without upgrading, changing the battery, etc. They killed the "throw
> away cell phone with one fell swoop!"
>
> Apple builds the best cell phones on the planet and that's just a fact
> the Cell Industry needs to learn.
>
> It might take them 6 months to 4 years to understand, but when Apple
> "enters" a "market"... all competitors die off rather quickly.
>
> Apple did this with the mini and mainframe market in the early 80's,
> did it again to the publishing industry, did it again with the MP3
> market, and now you are seeing them wipe out the Cell Phone Industry
> as we "knew it", 65 days ago.
>
> Apple will KILL off RIM, MOT, Symbian, Nokia, Samsung... they just
> don't have the talent to compete against OSX inside a Phone.
>
> -

You should take your act to the local comedy club- best material I've heard
in ages.

Scott <how.do@you.do> wrote in
news:V_KdnYWXrPMWd0DbnZ2dnUVZ_qvinZ2d@adelphia.com :


>
> You should take your act to the local comedy club- best material I've
> heard in ages.
>

Wait- never mind. I forgot that you were one of the mindless Apple sheep.
You'd actually have to interact with real people if you left the house. I
know how much you'd miss that poster of Steve Jobs in a Superman outfir
that you have taped up over your bed.